A new conceptual model for Fedora

screenshot of getfedora.org
Screenshot of the current getfedora.org website

Fedora’s web presence today

It’s no news now that Fedora has a new logo, and what you may not realize is that we do not have a new website – when we began the new logo rollout process, we simply updated the logo in-place on our pre-existing website.

The thing is – and this is regardless of the underlying code or framework under-girding the website, which I have no issues with – the messaging and content on the current getfedora.org website has not kept pace with the developments, goals, and general narrative of the Fedora project. We have a lot of different initiatives, developments, and collaborations happening at what I find at times is a dizzying pace that is challenging to keep up with. The number of different fronts that Fedora development takes place on and the low, technical level they occur at makes it difficult to understand the big picture of what exactly Fedora is, and why and how would one want to use it.

As part of the Fedora rebranding project, I’ve been worrying for a while how we will evolve our web site and our overall web presence. If we’re honest, I’ve been worrying about it quite a bit longer, and some plans we had at making a wildly interactive and participatory community-focused website kind of fell apart some time back and had me feeling somewhat defeated about Fedora’s web presence, particularly for contributors. I think some of the recent, rather exciting developments around contributor-focused Fedora assets such as our upcoming new Matrix-based chat server and Discourse-based discussion board (open source platforms!!) have sort of risen from the ashes of that failed initiative and have got me excited to think about Fedora’s web presence again.

But what *is* Fedora, exactly? What do I do with it?

This question of what is it and why/how should I use it? is a key message a software project website should have. So in setting out to rethink our website, I set out to answer this question for Fedora in 2021.

Through various conversations with folks around the project over the past few months I discovered that our labyrinthine technical developments and initiatives do in fact feed into a somewhat coherent singular story.

The problem is that our website currently does not tell that story.

In order to tell the story, we need the story. What is it?

Introducing the Fedora “F” Model


A diagram in the shape of an F. We start at the bottom, with a green ball labeled "Desktop User." As we move up the stem of the F (labeled "Development"), there are two branches: (1) an orange "Web/App Developer" branch, and (2) An "IoT Developer" branch. The Web/App developer branch has 3 connected nodes. The first node is labeled, "Local container-based development." The second node is labeled "Container-based development with remote Fedora CoreOS. The third node is labeled "Container-based development on K8S-based runtime." For the IoT developer branch, there are two nodes: "Fedora IoT on device, local container-based development" and "IoT devices at scale" are the labels for those two nodes. To the left of the F-shaped diagram is a circle labeled "quay.io registry" with arrows pointing from the two branches to it (the paths of containers, perhaps.)

Somehow, this diagram oddly turned out to be in the shape of an “F” for Fedora, yay! (It started out as a weird upside-down “L.”)

Anyhow, this diagram is meant to represent “the story” of Fedora and how you would use it, and serve as a model from which we will build the narrative for Fedora and its web presence. The core idea here is that there are three different ways of using Fedora, and the hope is that all of these ways (if not currently the default) will someday be the default using container-oriented options. Let’s walk through this diagram together and make some sense of it:

Desktop User

We start at the bottom of the “F”, at the green node labeled “Desktop User.” This is where most people come to Fedora today, and honestly, they need not go anywhere else if this is what they need and what serves them. They come to Fedora looking for a great Linux-based desktop operating system. Ideally, by default, this would be the container-based Silverblue version of Fedora’s Desktop – but one thing at a time, I suppose!

This desktop user can just hang out here and have this be their Fedora experience, and that’s totally fine. However, if they are interested in building software, or are a developer and looking to migrate to a Linux-based desktop / platform for their development work, they can bridge out from their basic desktop usage, up the spine of the letter “F” and venture into the “Fedora for Development” branches of the F.

Web/App Developer

I struggled to come up with a name for this branch: perhaps you have a better one? The idea here, is these are developers who are writing web apps mostly, kind of a “traditional” web-focused developer who is not developing for specific hardware or IoT style deployment targets (the IoT branch, which we will cover next, is for that.)

We do have users of Fedora today who use Fedora as their main development workstation. Linux as a workstation for developers is an obvious easy sell, since the apps they write are being deployed to UNIX-like environments. What is kind of compelling about Fedora – and sure maybe we could even be better at it with the focus of a narrative like this? – is that we have a lot of built-in tooling to do this type of development in a container-oriented way.

The idea here then is:

  • Get yourself set up with Fedora as a development workstation, and maybe we have affordances in Fedora itself (maybe right now they are web pages on our web site with information, later could be default apps or configurations, etc.) so that you can easily start developing using containers on your local Fedora workstation system right away.
  • As your app gets more sophisticated, and you need to use remote computing resources to get things running or get your app launched to be publicly accessible, your next step (moving right along the bottom branch of the “F” shape) would be to deploy Fedora CoreOS as a container host at your favorite cloud provider, and push your containers to that.
  • Finally, the end game and final stop on our orange web/app developer branch here is to deploy your even more sophisticated container-based app at scale, via a Kubernetes platform.

IoT Developer

I am not sure if the name for this branch is great either, but it’s basically the “Edge Computing” branch… here we have developers using Fedora who intend to deploy to specific hardware of the kind supported by the Fedora IoT Edition.

Here the story starts the same as the previous two – you begin by using Fedora as a Desktop / Workstation. Then you start developing your app using local containers. In this branch, we develop via containers locally on our Fedora Workstation, and in order to test out the code we are writing, we deploy Fedora IoT to the target device and deploy our locally-constructed containers over to Fedora IoT as a container host.

The next step to parallel the Web/App developer branch is to do this IoT, container-based development at scale, deploying to 100’s or 1000’s+ systems – we don’t really have a story for that today, but it’s a future end point worth thinking about so I left it in the model.

Containers, Containers, Containers!
An image of Jan from the Brady Bunch

If all of this is being done via the medium of containers – ok, great! Where do those containers live? Where do they go?

I don’t know the answer. I drew a “quay.io Registry” bit into the diagram with the idea that anyone can get a free accoutn there and use it to push containers to and pull containers from, as I understand it. I don’t know that Fedora wants to be in the business of maintaining its own open container registry (Oh! TIL – we do have one.) But certainly, having a registry somewhere in this narrative would be helpful. So I drew that one in. 🙂

Um, so what does this have to do with the website?

Well, the next step from here is to share this model with all of you fine folks in the Fedora project to see if it makes sense, if anything is missing or needs correction, and to just generally suss out if this is the right story we want to tell about what Fedora is and what you can do with it.

If that works out (my initial bugging a few Fedora folks with this idea seems to indicate it may well work out), then the next step is to construct the content and structure of the Fedora website around this model to make sure the website reflects this model, and to make sure we include all the resources necessary for users of Fedora in order to use it in the way prescribed by this model.

Practically, by way of example, this could mean mention of and support for the usage of the Containers initiative suite of open-source container tooling that we ship in Fedora by default – podman, buildah, cri-o, skopeo, and friends on the Fedora website.

Feedback wanted!

Does this make sense? Is this in need of a lot of work? Does this excite you, or terrify you? Are there corrections to be made, or new ideas you’d like to add?

Your feedback, comments, questions are wholeheartedly encouraged! Let me know in the comments here, or catch me on matrix.org (@duffy:fedora.im.).


  1. Peter V. Daniels

    New Conceptual Model for Fedora: Great Job! I see a 2-7 year program for continued
    strategic planning for the future: New Logo, OS Products, and as per the article above, User base into the future for continued free software usable proliferation for the varied markets in gaming, science, education, AI adaptation, Medical, Industrial, child Development / child Interaction. In the middle of the new technology surrounding the new designs too.

    I bit about me Peter V. Daniels : Very little software writing skills but from an earlier experience at Xerox Corporation in research and development as a technician, we were considered to be state of the art in delivering the best with our resourcefulness and being green thinking all the time! Quick to respond and react to emergencies and future world developments. I see this all in the Fedora Team: Huge Potential to continued growth and success beyond imagination. If other pedestrians in the world could only realize? They will!

    Best Regards

  2. Interesting take, Mairin. I think I maybe fall somewhere in the middle of what you’re saying here – I think Fedora’s current website – with the workstation, server, and IOT sections is a good start. It keeps Fedora from seeming overwhelming with too much going on. Perhaps we could have more complexity once you go beyond that.

    Let’s say you click on Workstation. Then the next page could talk about the current “normal” Fedora, the rps-OSTree Fedoras – Silverblue and Kinoite, and the other spins – Astronomy, games, etc.

    Same could happen with server and IOT.

    The only bad thing I see about your “F” concept is that it doesn’t APPEAR (emphasis on appear) that there’s a place for me. I’m a non-web dev. My software will run on other desktops. (This isn’t purely true, I’ve also written some FastAPI software) In our current picture it looks like you’re meant to evolve towards OpenShift (or at least running containers on DigitalOcean via Fedora CoreOS). I *know* that Fedora has tools for regular dev. I use toolbox (LOVE IT SO MUCH) to keep my deps from clouding up my main development box. But I feel this diagram pushes focus away from desktop or systems dev. Maybe I’m just reading it incorrectly?

    That aside, I continue to love your very thoughtful posts about how we present Fedora to the world. I’ve been using it since Fedora Core 1 Yarrow and it’s been my daily driver for over a decade now. I think the more folks we have using Fedora, the healthier the ecosystem is; so I have a big investment in what your team does.

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